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Nice deal on the Tyan 4985 Quad 1207 motherboard

The bad news is newegg  stopped selling the Tyan 4980 Motherboard I featured in my 16-core workstation build last year.  Fortunately, they are selling a better one now. The TYAN S4985G3NR Thunder has FOUR expansion slots to the 4980’s one. This means you can improve the built-in raid controller, add a good video card and still have some slots leftover.  Its on sale for $299 right now, which means its probably getting replaced by a better, more expensive Tyan Quad board in the near future.  I’m tempted to upgrade my workstation!

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DIY 16 core workstation part 4: Case & Power Supply

One very important detail on this build is the case. Building a system with a server motherboard requires an EATX case (Extended ATX).  EATX cases are the only things large enough to hold the Tyan S4980 motherboards.

So which one do you get? Well a few things to keep in mind. The motherboard supports 6 SATA hard drives and 2 IDE devices. So you should get a case that can support at least 8 drives.

The first case I tried was the Zalman GS1000, which is very nice looking, and can hold 8 hard drives. Unfortunately, I could not get ANY power supply plugs to reach the motherboard with this case.

I lucked out with the Antec 650 Titan EATX server case, because not only did it have a power supply mount near the motherboard power supply connectors, but the 650 W power supply ended up being perfect for my build.  How did I know that? I purchased a 1000W power supply first and mounted it into the Antec 650 case,  and I used a logging watt meter to measure the idle and peak watt usage while running IoStress on all hard drives  on the server.  IoStress pegged all 16 cores, and maxed out all 6 hard drives for a week. I checked the logged results — 520 W max usage.  The idle power consumption is less than 300W. Windows 7 does a good job at shutting down cores when they are not being used,  and the low power opterons help out alot.

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DIY 16 core workstation part 3: Memory & Heatsinks

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Kingston 1GB DDR2 ECC REG.

-Continued from Part 2-

It was a little tricky finding the right memory for the Tyan S4980 motherboard. You have to make sure that you use ECC, Registered DDR2 DIMMs  400, 533 or 667 Mhz. If you buy memory that doesn’t say ECC and REGISTERED on the box it won’t work.  You can use 1GB, 2GB or 4gB DIMMs, and you MUST install at least 2 DIMMs per CPU. Here’s a few part numbers I know work in the motherboard:

1GB $18.49 Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Server Memory Model KVR667D2D8P5/1G

2GB $30.99 Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Server Memory Model KVR667D2D8P5/2G

4GB $84.99 Kingston 4GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Server Memory Model KVR667D2D4P5/4G

Heatsinks:

You have lots of options here, and a few snags.  Since the CPU’s are spaced fairly close to each other, you will need compact ones.  The 2U case fan cooled heat sinks fit nicely.  The snag: there are 4″ and 3.5″ pitch versions. This is basically how far apart the mounting screws are spaced. The Tyan S4980 motherboard needs the 3.5″ pitch ones. See all figured out for you! Here are some good choices.

1. Dynatron F558 77mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler – Retail – $32.99

This CPU cooler comes with an unnecessary CPU support plate – the S4980 comes with them pre-installed. This is the one I purchased. Its noisy at full speed.  This one won’t work in 2U cases.

2.  Dynatron F661 60mm 2xBall CPU Cooler $24

This CPU is quieter on paper, doesn’t come with the CPU support plate, and its $9 cheaper. I should have bought this one. This one does work in 2U cases.

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DIY 16 core workstation part 2: Processors

AMD Opteron 8347

AMD Opteron 8347

As you read in part 1, we are building an AMD 16 core workstation, so we need to find four Opteron quad core processors.

Our Tyan S4980 motherboard only supports AMD “Barcelona” Opterons.  Barcelona’s have two main product lines: the 23XX and 83XX. We want to avoid the 23XX for this build, because those quad core CPUs only support two in a single motherboard. Nice little hitch to avoid.

Note: AMD is now shipping “Shanghai” Opterons. These processors are faster, better  (more expensive)  and they don’t work in the Tyan S4980 motherboard we are using. Unfortunately, the Shanghai Opterons have the same 23XX and 83XX numbering scheme, so one more little caveat to be aware of.

8347 (1.9Ghz),  8350 (2 Ghz), 8354 (2.2 Ghz) , 8356 (2.4 Ghz) , 8358 (2.5 Ghz) , 8360 (2.6 Ghz).

There are also two high efficiency versions (these use 55W instead of 75W) of these chips which work just fine: 8346 HE (1.8 Ghz) and the 8347 HE (1.9 Ghz) . I used four 8347 HE in my build.

The least expensive Quad core opteron on New Egg is the 8346 HE. it runs $549 for the OEM packaging, which does NOT include any cooling.

Another option is to shop eBay for these cpu’s, you can find them for much less, but make sure to buy the right part numbers.

Oh before I forget..One last detail, make sure to use four identical CPUs. I don’t know if you can mix 8347 and 8347HE on the same motherboard. Good Luck!

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DIY 16 core workstation part 1: The motherboard

TYAN S4980G2NR Quad 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 Extended ATX Server Motherboard

TYAN S4980G2NR

I love virtual machines. Unfortunately running lots of them on one server can get very expensive. A 16-core Dell PowerEdge R905 for example, will set you back about 12 grand (without OS).  So I set out to try and build my own system for less – and I’ve succeeded!

About a month ago I was doing random motherboard searches on NewEgg and I found exactly ONE quad socket motherboard for sale:  the TYAN S4980G2NR Quad 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 Extended ATX Server Motherboard.

The only catch (for me) was that this motherboard used AMD Opteron cpus,  and I knew nothing about them.  But there are no Xeon quad socket motherboards readily available, so AMD it is.  Theres alot of backstory on the Opteron / Xeon battle for market domination, but really it doesn’t matter if you can’t find quad socket Intel Xeon motherboards.  So AMD wins the 16 core workstation battle for now.

Anyways… The Tyan S4980 sells for around $400. Tyan has a good reputation, and they have all of the manuals online. Also I can vouch for this motherboard, since I’ve built my 16 core workstation with it.

16 CPUs in Task Manager

16 CPUs in Task Manager

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Dual Quad-Core workstation on a budget – part 1.

I use a Dell precision 490 at work, and it’s wonderful. Two Quad-Core 2.0GHz Xeon E5335’s, 4GB RAM, Raid 0 Striped HDDs. With 8 cpu’s I can run a lot of virtuals and still use the machine. 

But I’ve been spoiled by this machine,  and now I want one for home.  Unfortunately they are expensive. As configured that work machine was over $3,000.  Well worth it, but thats out of my budget.

So my project, and the subject of this article, is to see how cheaply I can duplicate the performance of my dell precision 490 workstation. Read the rest of this entry »

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